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I like Upbeats
Supermod
Join Date: Jun 2002
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Genre Profile: Ska
A little bit about Ska
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Ska is a what you got when you took African American R&B with traditional Jamacian Music. This was mostly Jazz and Mento but also was influenced by calipso and yaya. The word Ska came from a traditional Jamacian greeting Love Skavoovie. The Ska is what they called the dance people did to this music. 3 waves of Ska There are three waves of Ska. The first wave came about when the first ska bands appeared in Jamacia. 1st - The Skatalites, Baba Brooks, Ernest Ranglin, Jackie Mittoo, and Bobby Ellis, and vocalists like Laurel Aitken, Prince Buster, Derrick Morgan and Desmond Dekker. This is Traditional ska, with no elements of punk. If all you have ever listened to is Reel Big Fish and Less than Jake, you may not even recognize these bands as ska if you heard them. The Dance - Some of you may know the dance that is done now. I will discribe that later on. The First wave dance, as far as i can tell is very different. Keeping your self planted on the ground you only lift your heels on the up beat. When you lift your left heel, you bring your right shoulder forward and inward towards your chest. Then you decide what you want to do with your arms. 2nd - The Specials, The (English) Beat, Madness, The Selecter, Bad Manners, Apollinaires, Swinging Cats, Higsons, and The Papers. What was changed - Two Tone, this is where Two Tone came from. The Label 2 Tone Records was responsible for this revival and second wave. THis is where Punk, Pop and Rock were minced with Ska and Ska Punk bands first came about. Also it is centered in England, not Jamacia. The Dance - Im even less sure about this than i was in the first wave. My best guess is it is about halfway between 3rd wave and 1st wave ska. Probably more movement and maybe some moshing by now. 3rd - The Toasters, Operation Ivy, The Boilers, Second Step, Heavy Manners, Urban Blight, Reel Big Fish, Catch 22, The Pietasters, Sublime, No Doubt, The Planet Smashers, Slapstick, Skanking Pickle ect. What was Changed - America got its hands on Ska. The third wave is centered primarily on the West and East coast of America. Also it saw the typical American idea that Record Exects know better than bands what they should release. So band were signed up by Record companies and forced to quickly put out bad records. (see No Doubt) The Dance - Now this is a dance i know. Ok first, there is no set dance though some people seem to think it is. At Mustad Plug the other day i saw a bunch of White Kids skanking... each dancing the same exact way. It looked very sad. Dancing is a form of expression doing what you think you should be doing rather than what you feel you should be doing is inherently wrong. So here is a guideline. Start with one foot raised off the ground. The drum beat comes in and the guitar goes on the second and fourth beats (typically). What you do is on the first beat drop your foot and bring the other foot up. Do that for a bit. Now add the shuffle. On the off beat you should be raising your feet and on the on beat you should be brining them down. First the left foot then the right. Now, on the off beat... sort of hop the foot that is supposed to be on the ground back a little. It should remain on the ground though. That should take care of the feet. The arms are much simpler. When you lift your righ foot, push your right shoulder forward adn punch your right arm out. When you lift your left leg push out your left shoulder and punch out your left arm. If you can follow those instructions (They may be a bit complex... sorry) then you can now skank. Add turns and funky arm movements at your discresion. People Who Like Ska Rude Boys - The original term came from "The street-cool toughs of Kingston, Jamaica, dressed nattily in the latest and hep-est threads were known as rude boys and they ruled the Kingstown dance halls. " It was later taken during the second wave and applied to anyone who loved ska. Scooters - Because of their dress, Rude Boys (Suit and Polo Shirt) got along well with Mods. Mods liked scooters (Motorized ones). So Scooters have been a part of the ska scene since the second wave. But not so much in America. Other Info Ska was the preddecessor for Reggae. And how i want this to work... We leave this up for a week and then i choose someone else to do a genre profile (like how in the bass forum they do a featured artist and the person who does one this week pics the next person) So if enough people want to do a genre prifile of their own ill pick one by Monday and then they can get to work on it. Let me know what you guys think about that, or if you find anything wrong with this (I was bored and slightly drunk when i wrote this...) Last edited by Kithkin; 04-13-2003 at 07:31 PM. |
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OI OI OI!
Join Date: Jul 2002
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i found it ineresting and nicely done. if you dont mind could you post where you got the information because i have to do a report on the sub-genras of punk. Ifnot thats cool. but that was one hell of a job.
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The Downfall of Man.
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Centerville, Ohio
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I liked the skankin' instructions.
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Senior Guard
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Under a crimson sky
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good job Kithkin, the mods should make this one important so its up with the bands profiles
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Senior Guard
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Under a crimson sky
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good job Kithkin
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The Downfall of Man.
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Centerville, Ohio
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They should make more band profiles. In fact, I might do one myself.
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GET OUT TEH PUNX!!!!
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: republicansville USA (sigh)
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Good job kithkin, but i think i would consider The Toasters as Second Wave.
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I like Upbeats
Supermod
Join Date: Jun 2002
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Not they are traditional 3rd wave, where as Bands like Catch 22 are modern 3rd wave. The Toasters started after bands like the Specials and Madness broke up. I think the toasters started in the late late 80's or early 90's. Thus making them 3rd wave.
Crap i forgot approximate dates didnt I I got some of the info from a bunch of different sites. One was a guy on Amazon.com. If just type in something like First Wave Ska into google (or whatever wave you want) and see what pops up. |
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I like Upbeats
Supermod
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Somewhere, PA
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Bump....
Does anyone have any interest in doing the next profile? |
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GET OUT TEH PUNX!!!!
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: republicansville USA (sigh)
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Sure, what is it?
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I like Upbeats
Supermod
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Somewhere, PA
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Whatever the person i want chooses.
It could be as specific as post industial punk influenced emocore or as broad as ska or hardcore. Just not punk. |
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Reclaiming The Throne
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: United Conceited Gommunist Republics
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Helluva profile, nice work, man
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"crucial pit justice" you attack us for so long with karate **** now time for revenge has come, we don't take it at us you run, you spin, and do many kick the pit is strictly mosh, not get hit in dick
Join Date: Oct 2002
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I am disapoointed someone didn't put slapstick or skankin' pickle into 3rd wave
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I like Upbeats
Supermod
Join Date: Jun 2002
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What do you mean didnt include them...
:looks both ways: whew |
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Badnarik '04
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Centerville, Ohio
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cool, nice profile
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I ALWAYS REFER TO SKA AS "DANCE MUSIC"!!!!!! AND MY FRIENDS ARE LIKE, "WHATEVER...NO IT ISNT"
but now you proved me right!! thanks buddy! yes. i love ska! i'm a rude girl ![]() |
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Four-Star Day Dream
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: \m/Raise your goblet of Rock\m/
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SKA ROCKS...nuff said
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"crucial pit justice" you attack us for so long with karate **** now time for revenge has come, we don't take it at us you run, you spin, and do many kick the pit is strictly mosh, not get hit in dick
Join Date: Oct 2002
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Holier Than Thou
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: California
Posts: 2,088
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It's more of a link than a button.
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"crucial pit justice" you attack us for so long with karate **** now time for revenge has come, we don't take it at us you run, you spin, and do many kick the pit is strictly mosh, not get hit in dick
Join Date: Oct 2002
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your uncle
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